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ADE 407 & ADE 409 Power at sea level
Engine	2200 rpm	torque @ rpm	Comp Ratio	Compression @ Sea level	Pump timing	Engine Mass
ADE 409N	138 Kw	674 Nm @ 1300	16.5 : 1	20-28 bar	17° BTDC	690 Kg
ADE 407N	174 Kw	823 Nm @ 1500	16.5 : 1	20-28 bar	17° BTDC	795 Kg
ADE 407C	175 Kw	975 Nm @ 1200	16.0 : 1	20-28 bar	17° BTDC	815 Kg
ADE 407T	206 Kw	1177 Nm @ 1200	16.0 : 1	20-28 bar	15° BTDC	815 Kg
ADE 407TI	235 Kw	1350 Nm @ 1200	16.0 : 1	20-28 bar	15° BTDC	815 Kg

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ADE 407 & ADE 409 Power at sea level

Engine

2200 rpm

torque @ rpm

Comp Ratio

Compression @ Sea level

Pump timing

Engine Mass

ADE 409N

138 Kw

674 Nm @ 1300

16.5 : 1

20-28 bar

17° BTDC

690 Kg

ADE 407N

174 Kw

823 Nm @ 1500

16.5 : 1

20-28 bar

17° BTDC

795 Kg

ADE 407C

175 Kw

975 Nm @ 1200

16.0 : 1

20-28 bar

17° BTDC

815 Kg

ADE 407T

206 Kw

1177 Nm @ 1200

16.0 : 1

20-28 bar

15° BTDC

815 Kg

ADE 407TI

235 Kw

1350 Nm @ 1200

16.0 : 1

20-28 bar

15° BTDC

815 Kg

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Physical Characteristics of ADE 407 & ADE 409 engines
Engine Series	No Cyls	Firing Order	Cu Capacity	Bore	Stroke
ADE 409 Engines	5	1,2,4,5,3	9.51 liter	125 mm	155 mm
ADE 407 Engines	6	1,5,3,6,2,4	11.41 liter	125 mm	155 mm

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Physical Characteristics of ADE 407 & ADE 409 engines

Engine Series

No Cyls

Firing Order

Cu Capacity

Bore

Stroke

ADE 409 Engines

1,2,4,5,3

9.51 liter

125 mm

155 mm

ADE 407 Engines

1,5,3,6,2,4

11.41 liter

125 mm

155 mm

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ADE 407 & ADE 409 Cylinder Head Bolts - 12 point heads
Item	Short Bolts	Medium Bolts	Long Bolts
Stretch Limit length	111 mm	146 mm	170 mm
Diameter x pitch	M15 x 2	M15 x 2	M15 x 2
1st Stage	10 Nm	10 Nm	10 Nm
2nd Stage	60 Nm	60 Nm	60 Nm
3rd Stage	120 Nm	120 Nm	120 Nm
4th Stage	180 Nm	180 Nm	180 Nm
Final Stage	+ 90-100 °	+ 90-100 °	+ 90-100 °

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ADE 407 & ADE 409 Cylinder Head Bolts - 12 point heads

Item

Short Bolts

Medium Bolts

Long Bolts

Stretch Limit length

111 mm

146 mm

170 mm

Diameter x pitch

M15 x 2

1st Stage

10 Nm

2nd Stage

60 Nm

3rd Stage

120 Nm

4th Stage

180 Nm

Final Stage

+ 90-100 °

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ADE 407 & ADE 409 Cylinder Head Bolts - Hex heads
Item	Short Bolts	Medium Bolts	Long Bolts
1st Stage	10 Nm	10 Nm	10 Nm
2nd Stage	50 Nm	50 Nm	50 Nm
3rd Stage	100 Nm	100 Nm	100 Nm
4th Stage	140 Nm	140 Nm	140 Nm
Final Stage	+ 90-100 °	+ 90-100 °	+ 90-100 °

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ADE 407 & ADE 409 Cylinder Head Bolts - Hex heads

Item

Short Bolts

Medium Bolts

Long Bolts

1st Stage

10 Nm

2nd Stage

50 Nm

3rd Stage

100 Nm

4th Stage

140 Nm

Final Stage

+ 90-100 °

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ADE 407 & ADE 409 Other selected torques
Item	Con Rod bolts / Big Ends	Mains	Counter Bal Wt.
Stretch Limit length	68.5 mm	156 mm	71.2 mm
Diameter x pitch	M16 x1.5	M18 x 2	M16 x 1.5
1st Stage	100 Nm	300 Nm	160 Nm
2nd Stage	.	.	.
3rd Stage	.	.	.
Final Stage	+ 90-100 °	+ 90-100 °	+ 90-100 °

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ADE 407 & ADE 409 Other selected torques

Item

Con Rod bolts / Big Ends

Mains

Counter Bal Wt.

Stretch Limit length

68.5 mm

156 mm

71.2 mm

Diameter x pitch

M16 x1.5

M18 x 2

M16 x 1.5

1st Stage

100 Nm

300 Nm

160 Nm

2nd Stage

3rd Stage

Final Stage

+ 90-100 °

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ADE 407 & ADE 409 Flywheel torques
Flywheel Bolts - 12 point heads	length 74 mm	Length 80 mm	Length 85 mm	Flywheel Bolts - Old Type Hex
Stretch Limit length	75 mm	81 mm	86 mm	.
Diameter x pitch	M16 x 1.5	M16 x 1.5	M16 x 1.5	M16 x 1.5
1st Stage	210 Nm	210 Nm	210 Nm	100 Nm
Final Stage	+ 90-100 °	+ 90-100 °	+ 90-100 °	+ 90-100 °

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ADE 407 & ADE 409 Flywheel torques

Flywheel Bolts - 12 point heads

length 74 mm

Length 80 mm

Length 85 mm

Flywheel Bolts - Old Type Hex

Stretch Limit length

75 mm

81 mm

86 mm

Diameter x pitch

M16 x 1.5

1st Stage

210 Nm

100 Nm

Final Stage

+ 90-100 °

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Other important sizes for ADE 400 series engines
Item	New Ave	Min	Limits/Max
Cyl Head Thickness	114 mm	.	113.4 mm
Big end Ø Std	90 mm	.	89 mm
Main Bearing Ø Std	104 mm	.	103 mm
Piston Protrusion	.	+0.07 mm	+0.43 mm
Crank end play	.	+0.190 mm	+0.332 mm

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Other important sizes for ADE 400 series engines

Item

New Ave

Min

Limits/Max

Cyl Head Thickness

114 mm

113.4 mm

Big end Ø Std

90 mm

89 mm

Main Bearing Ø Std

104 mm

103 mm

Piston Protrusion

+0.07 mm

+0.43 mm

Crank end play

+0.190 mm

+0.332 mm

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ADE 407 & ADE 409 Valve settings
Item	ADE 409N	ADE 407N	ADE 407C T/TI
Inlet Valves - cold	0.25 mm	0.25 mm	0.30 mm
Exhaust Valves - cold	0.35 mm	0.35 mm	0.50 mm

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ADE 407 & ADE 409 Valve settings

Item

ADE 409N

ADE 407N

ADE 407C T/TI

Inlet Valves - cold

0.25 mm

0.30 mm

Exhaust Valves - cold

0.35 mm

0.50 mm